Dai Er and product of high end of Microsoft sing a different tune offer XP to be delayed to 2012
April 21, 2008
On April 22 message, according to foreign media coverage, a representing of the company that wear Er expressed a few days ago, dai Er will continue to offer Windows XP the operating system reachs professional edition 2012.
This year on June 30, microsoft will stop to offer Windows XP professional edition and domestic edition to shopkeeper and OEM manufacturer operating system. Be aimed at super- cheap PC market, microsoft will continue to offer system of XP family edition to come 2012.
But, representing of Dai Er expressed a few days ago, dai Er will issue product of all high end to relay add offers Windows XP in the banner the operating system reachs professional edition 2012. Include Latitude, Optiplex and Precision series product among them.
This delegate says: “A lot of users send email to us, express concern to will stopping to supply Windows XP system in June this year. ” to this, dai Er has not publish any comments.
If the message is belonged to solid, so the lifetime of XP system appears on the market those who exceed Windows 7 of operating system of the generation below Microsoft date. Windows 7 predicts to appeared on the market 2010.
In fact, last year in September, the time limit that Microsoft has installed OEM XP system beforehand is lengthened from January 31, 2008 to on June 30, 2008. But this year in January, infoWorld of website of American IT news was initiated ” rescue XP ” the action, hope Microsoft can extend the sale deadline of Windows XP system.
Although Microsoft also made fair compromise, but still announce at the beginning of this month, will stop to sell Windows XP system at will pressing original plan on June 30 this year. (The article
Nuojiyake can be rolled out ahead of schedule with IPhone competition product
April 15, 2008
Nuojiya (NOK) is used at challenging malic company (the detail of the new weapon of AAPL)iPhone is rising to surface gradually. A few latterer the analyst expresses, although Nuojiya feels the exterior of screen product the likelihood is very modern, but its operating system may be disappointing.
Dispatch of sina science and technology on April 12 message, according to foreign media coverage, in the past a few the middle of a month, as the world the Nuojiya of manufacturer of the oldest mobile phone already concealed the ground to show following message fully none: The company is developing a kind of high-grade mobile phone that has feeling screen technology, strike back the apple is opposite of him tradition domain inbreak.
The outside learns first Nuojiya is new the information of the product is to be before a few months. At present evidence makes clear: Its roll out a likelihood formally to be about to become reality.
The Nuojiya at the beginning of this week begins to carry course of study of start on a journey to observe domestic appetite, on the meeting of Evans data developer that holds in California annatto city, nuojiya demonstrated to develop code name to be ” Tube ” the slide of novice machine.
Spokesman of Nuojiya rejects to offer the exact date that new product rolls out, he states this may be in only the second half of the year this year. He still says, nuojiya won’t publish a comment to be about to roll out the technicality of the product.
The industry observes the home is maintaining patience all the time, they emphasize a product as far as possible perfect will be perfunctory with the product that does not use a kind of rawness customer is very main to Nuojiya, new product must have the actual strength that can have prepping according to with the IPhone that changed industry regulation.
The analyst of CSS Insight of advisory company of British telecommunication estate this - Wood (Ben Wood) expresses: “IPhone produced the effect of seismic type to whole industry. Since the first day when release from it, the mobile phone of avery kind of of market becomes disappointing. Unless Nuojiya’s product is first-rate, otherwise they won’t get any benefit. Otherwise they won’t get any benefit..
As the past of time of a few months, nuojiya grabs the pressure that releases emulative product before the apple rolls out IPhone of edition of a kind of 3G to grow continuously.
The Er of Nai of director of wireless equipment research of Strategy Analytics of market research firm - Mosidu (Neil Mawston) points out: “From long-term point of view for, nuojiyaken needs product of screen of a kind of feeling surely. The apple already improved the rail of the match, nuojiya must make response. Nuojiya must make response..
He still says, nuojiyake can be in time flower ” go up to the persistence of dependability and durable power ” .
Software is likely ” disappointing “
Once Nuojiya rolls out product of screen of the first kind of feeling, the exterior is very important for certain, but the success or failure that software may decide this kind of product finally.
The analyst of Nomura International Lichade - Wendesuo (Richard Windsor) expresses, he detected the newest version of S60 operating system, but it did not leave what profundity impression to him almost. Evidence makes clear, s60 becomes Nuojiya very likely to feel the operating system of screen mobile phone.
Wen Desuo is warned, unless be in,the Nuojiya before new product is rolled out experiences a respect to have in the user ” significant improvement ” , otherwise new product will cannot chase IPhone, also cannot realize gain.
He points out: “Although this is planted,the product looks pretty good, but we think software will bring about it finally to make a lot of people disappointed. But we think software will bring about it finally to make a lot of people disappointed..
Gartner wireless equipment considers to be in charge of Kaluolinna - Milanese Buddhist nun on the west (Carolina Milanesi) also holds distrustful position to the operating system. She points out, when S60 system allows an user to dictate through feeling screen make known to lower levels only use a finger, and the interface of IPhone is ” much finger is felt ” type, this shows latter can is opposite at the same time the instruction of a few finger make response.
Milanese Buddhist nun thinks on the west, may Nuojiya’s equipment does not have this kind of capacity, nuojiya ” be necessary to make up for this inadequacy with certain thing ” .
Other analyst is fatidical, nuojiya is aimed at the product of the first kind of competition of IPhone to be able to encounter very great difficulty at the beginning.
The Wood of CSS Insight expresses: “The apple already installed rail very high, the first time trial jump of any competitive products confronts failure possibly. The first time trial jump of any competitive products confronts failure possibly..
But, although product of screen of the first kind of feeling confronts failure, the possibility that Nuojiya opens the product that gives out a kind of enough and IPhone stand up to sb as an equal finally still very big.
Wood points out, the SamSung that as the world 2 bugler mechanism makes trade now (SSNGY) already showed a capable rapid improvement to feel screen product the first batch.
Since IPhone face city, this Korea company already rolled out mobile phone of screen of 5 kinds of feeling at least, include Instinct among them.
What should point out is, IPhone also has his weak point.
Can Nuojiyake beat IPhone in short message respect?
The analyst Mo Si of Strategy Analytics thinks suddenly, nuojiya’s greatest opportunity may be on short message function.
He points out: “I think, if Nuojiya is done weller than IPhone in the short message respect of emulative product, they make their product shows itself probably. They make their product shows itself probably..
The short message is the communication way that European market youth likes particularly, the short message also is growing in the heat of American market.
Mosidu predicts, nuojiya can roll out mobile phone of screen of a kind of feeling only at first, develop gradually next for a series, its name may be T series. He emphasizes, nuojiya’s target is with malic product distinction leaves come, won’t satisfy a work off absolutely because of tycoon of this Finnish mobile phone 10 million mobile phones.
He thinks, nuojiyaxi looks at work off more mobile phones, produce dimensions beneficial result adequately.
The sales volume of mobile phone of high-end N series was Nuojiya 2007 38 million. According to books a plan, nuojiya will be in next week the 4 outstanding achievement reports that publish season of the first money.
X200/X400/X500:TExposure of the whole line of HinkPad new product
April 13, 2008
There is a news today abrupt report associates will roll out ThinkPad X200/X400/500 series, return the R\T\W series that will roll out new fund at the same time. Be really false? Contacted designedly for this Netease number associate undertake confirming.
Before a few months, associate rolled out exceed light jotter X300, caused not minor sensation. A few days ago, the message says, jotter of ThinkPad of whole new series will be rolled out later on this year, in light of interested friend.
The product of new exposure includes 12 inches X200, 14.1 inches X400 and 15.4 inches X500, all Penryn processor that these jotter will use Cheng of 45 pay the metric system. All X series will join HSDPA and EVDO, time of batteries add boat rises 25% .
The product of other new exposure still includes:
R seriesStill be introductory form product, include R400 (5.1 pounds) with R500 (6.4 pounds) , will roll out July.
T seriesThe ATI HD3650 that uses 256MB or 512MB shows clip, include T400 (4.3 pounds) with T500 (5.8 pounds) , will appear on the market June 3.
W seriesNot be new wide screen series, w represents Workstation Replacement, include 15 inches W900, still have additionally 17 inches of products.
Other character still includes:
2 class of processor 6MB cache
Turbo Memory (highest 2GB)
Optional blue smooth CD driver
1.6GHz DDR3 memory
LED is in a poor light (except R series)
HSDPA and EVDO
Use the 9 core batteries with same size to replace 6 core
Hard disk of optional solid state (remove W set)
Newest progress: To confirm the authenticity of the message, netease number is exclusive couplet line relevant staff member of a ThinkPad, the possibility that is informed ThinkPad X200 to be able to appear on the market very quickly is great, the 14 type with 15 inches can not use X400 and X500 certainly such model will behave.
Netease number is recommended outspread read:
Price difference of domestic and international product suffers doubt ” world-class ” associate to still should be done a lot of
March 24, 2008
On March 18, be regarded as ” future associates product of the heaviest head ” ThinkPadX300 opens mysterious veil eventually: This is computer of notebook of 13 the whole world is the smallest and the function is the most complete inches of wide screen, weight is 1.33 kilograms only, the smallest part is airframe only 18.6 millimeter.
But its price pattern gets dispute fully however: Home can be 24999 yuan twice respectively for the version price of the choice with 34999 yuan; And in 3 version with American optional market, the RMB of type amount to of corresponding home version mixes 21262 yuan for 17548 yuan respectively only, price difference is most nearly 14000 yuan of RMBs.
Associate Yang Yuanqing of chairman of group board of directors expresses in query of answer paper intermediary: High quality product should have costly case, if the price is too cheap, the user may feel the product is bad. (” southern Metropolis Daily ” on March 19)
Afore-mentioned price difference make associate suffer doubt. The investigation of channel of Netease science and technology shows, up to on March 22 afternoon, in attending voting 22000 much netizens, ” if you have enough money, can be ThinkPad bought in home? ” ask, have the person selected pick that is as high as 84.4% won’t.
Wu Xiaobo of writer of finance and economics is in ” 30 years of agitate ” in ever said, no matter be,be a delegate in order to associate ” trade industry ability ” , still be a delegate with sea Er ” labour trade ability ” , this two old growing way of Chinese computer and home appliance industry make without one exceptional ground the technology makes core ability in most the one annulus of weakness and lag.
Nowadays, yang Yuanqing alleges OK and proudly: The birth of ThinkPadX300 ” effectively proved, associate the enterprise that serves as an internationalization, the resource with capable integrated best whole world, the domain such as design of the innovation research and development in computer product, industry establishs new standard ceaselessly. ” but, associate in technical respect progress and banner idea, can not mask its to be in the inadequacy of more respect.
It is immature above all. With Dai Er quoted to its monitor website on Feburary 27 (be regular price only almost 3 fold) make mistake undertake an apology and acceptance takes single shot money lift photograph comparing knowledgeably, the one-sided after the ThinkPadT61 system price that associated in website of its United States on January 9 makes mistake informs the order that buy the home of the babyish behavior that already cancelled with mail, let what oneself should build hard bear the blame internationalization company image loses cent greatly.
Than immature more terrible is to lack long-dated program and right strategy. Associate to ever expressed, obtain from IBM place a certain number of year the ThinkPad brand of use will be located in surely the mainstream, medium high-end market, but the view with relatively unanimous consumer is, associate the product of manufacturing ThinkPad and former IBM still is put in certain difference, this is in virtually pare its are in the mainstream, medium the competition ability of high-end market.
In addition, what offer in Hong Kong to former IBM is cheap the favourable policy such as student machine, sex of satisfy a craving of couplet be enlightened increases a newspaper to repair progressively and difficulty, contractible depreciate extent, reduce the kind such as service content evasive responsibility is assumed, appear shortsighted. And the member that IBM and Dai Er come from in running a group is used to selling pattern continuously and not be good at managing cent to sell with channel, add the deed that certain state will associate and buys IBM PC branch and political couple, because this associates in Euramerican market share,have improvement hard up to now.
Buy IBM PC branch 3 years to come, although associate turnover is jumped from 3 billion dollar raise 17 billion dollar, realized 3 times gain, but work greatly thirdly target ” maintain ThinkPad to be in the leadership position of jotter market; Banner on market share Dai Er and HP; Retain a client satisfaction spends and partner satisfaction spends the first ” did not achieve in fact: The data that comes from many authoritative orgnaization all shows, HP and Dai Er live apart 2007 before market of global personal computer two, and grand 碁 computer is repelled successfully associate a row the 3rd. Associating was to achieve productiveness growth really, but the development of its competitor is more dazzing.
Break in advance and retreat occupy, this X300 price disturbance still mirrors instead be deficient in badly what associate in the respect such as public relations ability, market sale ability and crisis processing capability: Associate general manager of department of trade of act of trade of big China division appearance Xiao Hui is alleged ” major computer product is met in different country different price is differred, the element such as cost of the fixed position that this and brand differ in region market, labor is concerned ” say decline.
Escape hard of course ” associate the money that firm earns him nation consumer, cheap however foreigner ” and so on censures; All expand in of all kinds jotter the setting of market share falls in order to depreciate, the high price of X300 is undoubtedly go against tide lift; And when popularizing X300 with all one’s strength, be aimed at the fierce criticism that the product fixes a price, doubt and even protest to this one, associate to be communicated not not timely however response, actively, indissoluble Shi Chengqing, can say expression of its crisis public relations does not comparative to succeed.
The most important is, all along appeal ” support home products, supportive nation industry ” associate, it is the ethical proper pride that underestimated Chinese consumer really and susceptibility this, and the cry that they ask to share fruit of internationalization of fine nation company.
Exist possibly socially result from the Choufu psychology of trend of become divided of the rich and the poor, it is the bad name that lets X300 subdued the ground to assume luxury more. Home’s so resonant potential effect nots allow really small gaze: Be opposite to often be hit ” ethical brand ” for the enterprise, homeland is disregarded, why to consider the world?
On March 20, associate in England ” financial times ” those who release ” 10 macrocosm class brands of Chinese ” in flourish ascends head of a list of names posted up, be in responsibility of brand force, integrated rank, society (abroad) , the market precedes gender, market precedes quality (abroad a list of names posted up) , brand force (abroad) the be the champion in waiting for 7 index. This explains admittedly associate to obtain outside height to evaluate as the forerunner of Chinese enterprise internationalization, but contrast always lives apart second Qingdao beer carries off first 4 index, associate or allow the difference with discovering oneself very quickly: Value of brand value, high grade brand, product and service, brand (abroad) .
Want to become world-class company, can be in with passing the strategy to be bought probably short-term inside enlarge is large-scale, but accomplish connotation type to expand truly in resource conformity and respect of innovation research and development only, satisfy the requirement of consumer truly through raising product quality and service consciousness, to the market development of research, technology, product is made, each link such as sale, public relations gives take seriously duely, brand value ability gets stable promotion.
Brand force and market precede ability gets maintenance for a long time, the long-term development of the enterprise just can get assuring. In this respect, the way that couplet wants is very long still.
4 big companies drive real situation of product of China of German CeBIT confiscate
March 10, 2008
In open to the public on March 4 Germany information of Han Nuowei international and communication technology are exhibited (on CeBIT) , new technology is not only central issue, “Confiscate ” also became exhibit the keyword of the meeting. Successive a few days, of tens of home companies exhibit a stage to because be suspected of,all violate patent by German police confiscate. Before mixing a few years same, china exhibits a stage to be become once more by the main target of confiscate.
4 big companies are driven ” confiscate “
On the CeBIT this year, be exhibited by the China of confiscate stage amount achieved the history new tall: Be in only on March 6 a day, enterprise of 24 continents industry, 12 stage endowment and 3 Hongkong’s traders exhibit a stage by confiscate, occupy that day by confiscate enterprise most probably, confiscate ” accusation ” involve the aspect such as tort of technology, exterior, brand, the product covers the electronic consumable such as navigator of MP3 player, GPS, sound box, mobile phone.
Confiscate spot for a time confused. The ginseng of company of a China exhibits personnel not to know German, german police makes by force she signs inside 3 minutes, she can give in pays 1000 euro fine, the product is copied by police. But the DVD rehabilitate opportunity that another China unfolds business is pointed to after tort, this company active bargaining issued patent proof, heart just be forced to return a machine.
“By confiscate although the company is accepted hard temporarily, but no matter be impeach square, still be German procuratorate, court, police, be in lawfully act. ” suffer Chinese company to entrust, tell in the Niu Wenqi’s lawyer that exhibits meeting site to exhibit business to offer law to seek advice for China ” international precursory gazette ” .
There basically are 4 companies to protect his patent large-scaly through applying for confiscate on CeBIT at present, riverside of the Sisvel of patent management company that they are Italy, flying benefit, Suo Ni loves to establish letter and Swiss sabre, be aimed at MP3, DVD, mobile phone and U respectively dish tort behavior.
Niu Wenqi says, the data that impeach just provides is very overall, after the procuratorate is listening to one-sided opinion but urgent decide by impeach square whether tort. Once evidence is in hand, the court is signed and issue ” temporarily ban ” , police takes confiscate action subsequently. The decision of German court is had mandatory, if the enterprise does not hand over item on display, pay fine, will be faced with person to detain.
“Be without the big stick-means of intimidation of cost “
The expert inside course of study points out, confiscate is method of a kind of competition actually, microsoft, apple, SamSung ever had encountered similar patent issue in CeBIT. In recent years, because Chinese electron product exports Europe in great quantities, make competition to foreign manufacturer, the game regulation that because this is certain,the manufacturer tries to lend control patent is hit press rival.
This kind of game is regular, be exhibited by the China of confiscate business is not do not know. With respect to MP3 patent, a lot of China are exhibited square Sisvel of company of representative of patent of Cengyu Italy MP3 has been contacted. But Chinese company thinks, the patent license requirement of Sisvel is too slashing: Patent application person need pay not only earnest money of 150 thousand dollar, fill even hand over to the collective or the state manages before the patent fee of the product, but the data that Sisvel does not believe to Chinese company gives out again; And the new company that records without the sale, it is more difficult to obtain patent license.
Niu Wenqi introduces, be had by the enterprise of confiscate 3 kinds of outlets: To the court application stops criminal to investigate a program; Make put forward counterplea to ransacking, enter legal order; Requirement Germany authorities cancels to ransack your, return return item on display. But actually, be chosen to be removed hastily without one exception by the Chinese enterprise of confiscate exhibit, make concessions to avoid trouble.
He thinks, in square ” nonfeasance ” certainly will causes more and abominable consequence: Heart square henceforth will more without scruple the ground is signed ” temporarily ban ” ; Impeach also just can continue this raises brandish ” the big stick-means of intimidation that is without cost ” dozen press rival.
How no longer passive ” endure slaughter “
“Strengthening own innovation is the basic outlet that avoids confiscate to happen again. ” Tan Hualin tells secretary-general of research center of intellectual property of university of Chinese politics and law ” international pioneer gazette ” , “But short-term will tell, chinese industry should rise to belong to a company to negotiate with patent place jointly. Chinese industry should rise to belong to a company to negotiate with patent place jointly..
According to introducing, at present company of Chinese number home obtained La Guang DVD ” patent pool ” alternate accredit, the strategic consciousness that indicates Chinese electron business is increasing. And the experience that enterprise of Japan of one’s early years breaks barrier of abroad intellectual property through governmental support, transverse combination also is worth to draw lessons from.
Crisis processing also can protect company reputation. Last year ” patriot ” be worth commend to the processing of MP3 confiscate incident. Company president Feng Jun is in at that time arrange with of square Sisvel of the spot and impeach, explain to global media confiscate is ” misunderstanding ” , hold a news conference in home subsequently, apologize by Sisvel personally.
Tan Hualin hints, chinese company should whether is the patent that him microscope uses already abroad annul, sueing jointly when necessary. 2004 DVD ” patent pool ” alliance collects patent fee of high specified number to Chinese enterprise, but have a lot of among them ” rubbish is patent ” , invalid patent and blame are necessary and patent, the Chinese DVD alliance that lacks ego to protect consciousness at that time chose passivity however ” endure slaughter ” .
Divide product of numerous wireless and formal operation to include to the dot is accused and be accused continuously
February 16, 2008
China is made upgrade air standard product lands European market
January 3, 2008
Current, on the international market, “China is made ” advantage still driving, use a network to make the product participates in international competition, it is to infiltrate the shortcut of the international market. The product that China makes is passed upgrade, get used to international standard ceaselessly, use network sale, opening an international market extensively.
The business of Chinese air standard that lands European market successfully recently — Wuhan flies air model plant, the advantage that proved China enrages modular technology again and ” China is made ” peculiar glamour. Air standard is a kind of market approbate but the product that does not have national product standard, the uses the United States and Europe generally level on international is designed, although air standard industry of China starts later, but development speed is swift and violent, had reached the technical level with banner international at present.
Wuhan flies air model plant is Wuhan the home is produced with making and manufacture air standard, balloon, arched door, the enterprise of pillar, cartoon, scope is very little, include a boss inside only 4 people. Introduce according to be in charge of population manager, air model plant the threshold is not actually high, raw material is relatively simple also, and air standard technology of China has reached world banner level, what be deficient in exclusively is promotion way.
Fourth director says frankly, in the person of the same trade, fly air model plant is dimensions smaller, portfolio is very few at the beginning of building a plant, can saying is to step forward dimension difficult, can open European market, accord with international standard besides the technology outside, raw material, artificial fare is low also be the key that wins international competition, at the same time network sale also gave big help.
On November 30, 2006, pass the friend’s introduction, fourth director begins to apply electronic business affairs, as we have learned, they use ” IBM inscription connects treasure ten thousand and eight times ” it is inscription the 10 thousand offers for medium and small businesses only products that roll out jointly with IBM. Because the product is excellent, channel unobstructed, short lunar time, fly air model plant receives many order in succession, effect sees at the beginning of electronic business affairs.
The person of the same trade that business affairs of a lot of electrons just started enquires fourth director scores the secret of success of order successfully in succession. “Actually I feel also hang of it doesn’t matter but character, want real motive only and threw seriously, the success is inevitable. Also the friend always complains with me say, beautiful money built a website, did not serve business description at the outset as a result so ‘ get effect instantly ‘ , also be disinclined to be in charge of a website again later. Because I am certain my product can have the market certainly from beginning to end, just lack effective promotion and conduct propaganda, the road of electronic business affairs is more stoutly. ” at present, long triangle and China in the mould production business of generation has begun to use electronic business affairs to extend overseas market in succession.
According to Internet respect expert king army introduces, resemble flying air standard such enterprise is China is made actually, especially a kind of outlet that Chinese medium and small businesses makes. Wang Jun tells: “Application resembles ‘ all directions of 10 thousand IBM connects inscription treasure ‘ the solution of electronic business affairs that such baling, channel of OK and very good breakthrough medium and small businesses and network apply the bottleneck of experience. Reduce the cost in foreign trade process effectively, had become China to make one of efficient way that move toward an international market. Had become China to make one of efficient way that move toward an international market..
Face the good luck of the international market and challenge, what Chinese enterprise should do is new product of positive research and development, new technology, producing advantage of price of Chinese market raw material, labour force adequately while, conform the banner sex that carries a technology, adequately with the international market, devote into the spring tide of electronic business affairs, extensive exploration develops the way of the market, this also is a country ” electronic business affairs develops ” 915 ” program ” of place appeal, develop activity of electronic business affairs actively, implementation enterprise oneself develops, implementation China economy lasts, steady growth.
HTC releases new product line to trot along on horseback view flower looks one by one
January 1, 2008
HTC(grand amount to report) they were started in London the product line of new mobile facility that the four seasons spent 2007, include to new Touch expands familially and hold phone equipment.
The product that releases this undertook changing blood greatly to existing product line almost, make us many a know them now.
Exit of product of our country hi-tech can amount to 350 billion dollar this year
December 25, 2007
The country develops and Zhang Xiaojiang of reform council vice director does 27 days in news of the State Council say on the news briefing, as the rapid development of industry of our country hi-tech, hi-tech product becomes our country foreign trade to export new point of growth, before exporting bound of amount ascend one’s life experience two.
Zhang Xiaojiang says, exit of product of our country hi-tech reached 281.5 billion dollar 2006, was 2002 4 times much, 29% what occupy countrywide foreign trade to export total. Predict hi-tech industry gross earnings will exceed 6.3 trillion yuan 2007, hi-tech product exit will reach 350 billion dollar.
Stunt of low IT product is dye-in-the-wood valence does not have city
December 25, 2007
City hair changes appoint concerned controller was opposite yesterday when value of ZhongGuanCun IT product undertakes checking, disclose, the near future already received consumer many cases to complain inform against, when saying to buying the IT product such as camera of computer, number, medium businessman ” exceed low standard ” decoy, be worn by flicker instead drew out many injustice money in vain.
A cost price is 8988 yuan notebook computer, undertake selling with 5998 yuan price, valence differs nearly 3000 yuan. When nevertheless should consumer expresses to be interested in this computer, guide the member that buy exposes to the sun actively however oneself family scandal: Bay? look this jotter weight is too heavy, carry inconvenience, configuration also was differred bit. ” recommend an another money goods enthusiasticly again subsequently, but its price compares market price unexpectedly expensive went out sufficient have 1000 yuan!



